1 00:00:03,470 --> 00:00:01,790 what is it to say that something is real 2 00:00:06,110 --> 00:00:03,480 or to say that one thing is more real 3 00:00:07,909 --> 00:00:06,120 than another and I think that is an 4 00:00:09,770 --> 00:00:07,919 important question and I think that 5 00:00:11,930 --> 00:00:09,780 question can't be decided by just 6 00:00:13,910 --> 00:00:11,940 looking within any particular theory for 7 00:00:15,890 --> 00:00:13,920 its particular fundamentals because what 8 00:00:17,330 --> 00:00:15,900 we're asking I think I would argue when 9 00:00:19,670 --> 00:00:17,340 we're asking questions about reality is 10 00:00:21,710 --> 00:00:19,680 what what makes possible any and all 11 00:00:23,630 --> 00:00:21,720 such intelligibility what makes possible 12 00:00:25,910 --> 00:00:23,640 any possible theory that might turn out 13 00:00:29,570 --> 00:00:25,920 to be true there has to be some aspect 14 00:00:32,990 --> 00:00:29,580 because we take it I think that reality 15 00:00:35,270 --> 00:00:33,000 in some sense corresponds to our ability 16 00:00:38,870 --> 00:00:35,280 to make our claim to find our claims 17 00:00:40,310 --> 00:00:38,880 true or our skills applying or a 18 00:00:42,889 --> 00:00:40,320 perspectives present 19 00:00:44,869 --> 00:00:42,899 Etc so I I'm waving over with that with 20 00:00:47,090 --> 00:00:44,879 my hand because that's a big thorny knot 21 00:00:48,709 --> 00:00:47,100 but I'm trying to pull apart I think 22 00:00:50,630 --> 00:00:48,719 there's reductionism which we put aside 23 00:00:51,830 --> 00:00:50,640 there's fundamentality and I will I 24 00:00:53,330 --> 00:00:51,840 agree with Donald what he just said 25 00:00:54,950 --> 00:00:53,340 about that and but I think we have an